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I read your mail while ago and now that I have a little 'more time I would like to say a few words about the speech security / immigration that Alexander has raised.
I think that what unites the people of today is not understanding what it means to security ... I think that safety is always wrong and in correlation with immigration is not the case in my opinion ...
Let me explain with a metaphor. A psychology have taught us to speak with metaphors so forgive me if I may seem trivial ... consider security as a curved line and immigration as another curved line ... these two lines being curved can weave in some way, in several ways and over ... therefore also for immigration and security is so ... but the two curves are distinct and not always sovrepposte ... This is the main key ... Among those, even Pieve ... I always denote a strong ignorance more ... ignorance understood as a noun to ignore ... not in the pejorative sense. Security is both a feeling something real. Immigration is only reality. And the two things coincidono.La Real security is based on mathematics and about the likelihood of the possible risks and effectiveness of protective measures taken. Indeed, we can easily evaluate how safe is our home than the theft by taking into account factors such as crime rate in the area where we live or our habit of always close and lock the door. We can also easily calculate the probability of being murdered by a stranger on the street or in our home by a family member. Finally, we can calculate the probability of being a victim of identity theft. Given a large enough set of statistics on criminal acts, this is not very difficult: the insurance companies do so for some time. We can also calculate how much a car alarm can increase the safety of our home or how the locking of our bank account will protect you from identity theft. Once again: given a sufficient amount This information is easy. But security is also a way of feeling, a feeling, not based on probability and mathematical calculations but on our psychological reactions to risks and protective measures. You can be terrified by terrorism or vice versa did not feel in any way threatened by it. At the airport you can feel more confident seeing that the shoes of passengers are checked by metal detectors or what can be left completely indifferent. There can be considered high risk with regard to burglary in the medium risk with regard to the murder and at low risk for identity theft. And our neighbor, in the exact same situation, could be considered high-risk compared to identity theft, medium risk against the burglary and at low risk for the murder.
More generally, it can be safe even if you do not feel safe, and conversely feel safe even if in reality you have not. The perception and the actual security are certainly related, but not the same and would probably be better to have two different terms to describe these different situations.
Examples of the first I've taken from an article in Contemporary Psychology few months ago. I do not know, maybe everything is just words on safety dictated by my studies etc, but I think there is little information in general about everything ... I think it's fair to work ... and in this sense that we should try to "acculturate" people for having a more healthy and really discuss the bases and practical knowledge and not based on racial bias.
I hope in some way to have made my contribution to "democracy" in this debate.

Ilaria

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In my small way, I fully endorse the disappointment of the public speaker Toni Muzi Falconi for what he calls the "end of the socio-cultural caesura": "instead of what happens in other countries, where are the cultural elites to embody values, policies and ambitions which are then interpreted and treated civilly by the rest of citizens in Italy were the elites to adapt to the values \u200b\u200band policies more becere, impersonate and act from the fringes most vulgar and uneducated: the right and left, means "(article published in http://www.ferpi.it/ ).
Associated with the rhetoric of national decline, the situation is quite depressing and dangerous circoloviziosamente.
we hear more and more obsessively say that we are facing a big crisis, economically, culturally, ecceteralmente
... But if every time we italians us we take our responsibilities? But especially if we realize that the change is put into practice and not only suffers?
I have the idea that Italy can and should become a cosmopolitan country, is a reflection by geographer I carry around a long time considering the history of this peninsula and its Towns, its territorial realities we have in the DNA diversity of peoples, cultures, languages, cook together representing Italy. They are a multicultural wealth which has intensified in recent years, increasing differences so that all now recognize that we are more Italie.
is then that we should try something other than a lowest common denominator to the bottom (the Other, the enemy, to find / create a fictitious identity), but a kind of greatest common integrator. For me it is a global vision, cosmopolitan and multicultural materials that subsequently impact on the profession, the way we act, public markets and to achieve.
I start from there. In fact here.

Biagio

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First of all thank Alex for having driven the blog with a debate on a crucial issue today and on all the news.
Clearly, my position is slightly different from that of Alexander.
Starting from the sentence of a book that some 'time ago I was given. It is titled "How are the Italians?" Jivis Tegna author is a freelance journalist arrived in Italy in 1992. In the chapter on immigrants (it was called) says, "for Italy often come to men and foreign women, besides using all their money, they resort to collections or family loans that will be added to the sum that, when possible, is sent by a brother or a relative already settled in Italy, "" Once in Italy, many non-EU realize that the nation is not for them, in most cases are completely excluded from society and, consequently, they do not feel the need or desire to integrate ";" the need to live in housing in many small stems from the high price of housing rents and low wages that employers give Italian "; "More than once that has happened to me while I was with my friends, or at the market square or at a bus stop or in the crowd, is that police officers have asked us for documents and I have rarely seen the same scene to Italians. "

What do we care, many will say .., then if we work until the evening of asylum to pay fees for our children? What do we care if we can not afford decent housing if not accessing it through substantial contributions to family (for those who can afford it!) Or loans that are unlikely to be accessible and "manageable" for young people? What do we care if criminal acts are involved then many immigrants and our city \u200b\u200b"-seem to be" less safe?
My passion for politics, for a precise alignment (which fortunately is radically modernizing), comes from having shared certain principles from his youth that the center-left-promoted and that you have created the very existence in the late '800, '900 early. It seems to me useful in this debate to take back at least 2 and apply to globalized modernity:

EQUALITY: Engels said that "" And so the inequality is transformed in turn into equality, but not in the ancient natural equality of men devoid of primitive language, but in the higher contract social. The oppressors are oppressed. It is the negation of negation. "Then the art. 3 of the Constitution states that All citizens have equal social dignity and are equal before the law, adding ... It is the responsibility of the Republic to remove those barriers economic and social order, which constrain the freedom and equality of citizens, prevent the full development of the human person ...
If a foreign national living and working regularly in our country, generally low-cost the employer, and pay their taxes, why should not they have the same rights and duties of the "native" perhaps on the basis of a social contract that can sign or which may be invested in public (look at what he does in that sense, Canada!)?
The real issue today in Italy, that the policy does not emphasize properly, I think it is the certainty of law and punishment. The latter in particular should hit all those Italians and foreigners who commit crimes. Unfortunately, the communication Berlusconi in recent years has taught us that justice can still get around and the detention is often not commensurate with the punishment. In addition to the right where you finished the mechanism of collective social sanctions? Because today we are afraid to go by, law enforcement (In respect of the roles and tasks that must be clear and known) to highlight a possible problem of crime, be it micro or macro? Because if a church there are no suspicious circumstances are put to the proper authorities? Because other situations (like what happens to the park Neverland) innoservate pass by the proper authorities? I believe these issues should be communicated and it is time that our generation is a serious effort to overcome some of the mechanisms of justice-political-economy which are rigid, stagnant and in need of a real "new era" to be even cracked.
attention to the most WEAK : this concept, so dear to the Catholic culture, needs to be restored and promoted. A new culture that you consider carefully the most vulnerable, not only foreigners can be pursued both through the symbols and communications but also through concrete commitments. I believe that attention to the weakest (solidarity) is not to be understood only in terms of monetary aid and not as well as opportunities for collective growth of people with whom we live daily. Why on television or in our territories, we tend to highlight examples and actions of those already stated? Because the actions and achievements of those who already have seem more important than others? I assure you that Last Friday, the Moroccan dinner organized Renazzo, the greatest thrill was to observe the happy look of women who, after preparing dinner for hours, were thanked by all the diners. Not to mention the faces and smiles of foreign children who were running and talking with us. Well I really think that the evening was the most beautiful and rich in any program on Sky or by Flemming (and very tasty!).
As for concrete commitments there is no doubt that such a new culture of respect for the environment should start from us by foreigners before ... that provide more housing to subsidized housing (for young and old) in future urban development is a task and duty of the government .. as well as the employer with a commitment to "exploit" but not to improve the quality of life and opportunities of their employees!
As Giddens says in his latest book (also wonderful) "Europe in the global age", "social solidarity is the integration of a networked society, from porous borders, where the positive citizenship creates a set effective social obligations and a well-defined culture of respect towards others, respect for life in meetings ranging from the everyday to the abstract relations with distant cultures "

Excuse the outburst, but I took the opportunity to say a few things I think! I think you can do. ... And still am convinced that we as a country (the number who cited the International Laura the merits in this sense), as people, as young people, to avoid having to touch the bottom.

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Were it not that I know well Alex, his critical ability and, above all, its provocative verve my blood boil and I am nervous pulse of the vein of the forehead. I would think: "but what the hell, even among our bait there are those who work (excellent in its effectiveness) of the exhaust collective fears about the dangers (only partly true, mostly imaginary) from which the electorate feels besieged winning? ". But fortunately I know that Sandra is a beautiful and good challenge and I welcome that because it opens an interesting debate. To it, therefore, I say.
answer referring to read a very interesting article yesterday in the journal Micromega signed by Rodotà and that is called "cultural inferiority". Rodotà an analysis of the League and the mainstream culture today, and speaks of a "separatist culture, not so much risky for 'national unity, as for social cohesion. Hence the practice of political representation as opposed to another - another that includes the immigrant, the South, the communist. From there an idea Community closed and aggressive. "Here, I add, the evenings spent in front of strips lobotomized sky and the perception of an unsafe Pieve di Cento. Continue Rodotà also critical to the Democratic Party, saying the policy agenda today is driven by approximation degrades cultural autonomy of the proceedings and the possibility of critical reflection. Back in 1994, in front of Berlusconi's success, there was a race to political marketing, because then it seemed that the political resolve in this innovaizone. At the time, mimed Berlusca, today is likely to mimic the League. behold, I hear from many sides: "They have caught the real problems people have won for that, we must also we be able to give concrete answers to people's problems. "Rodotà defines this attitude as a cultural inferiority, the mother of all defeats. And I feel very much agree with him. This does not deny the fact that the League and Berlusca have caught the real issues (immigration, impoverishment of families, insecurity). Only that, as written elsewhere, the sociologist A. Dal Lago, stuffed them into a "blob" single and undifferentiated. The problem of immigration and insecurity are certainly addressed, but I can not believe that the only languages \u200b\u200band the only possible recipes are those of the League. I think Veltroni during the election campaign had laid good foundations for our own speech, which proceeded on the recognition individual rights, social cohesion, development as the basis for everything, especially in Europe as a reference point.
Speaking of Europe, two comments
a) all the key documents that the European Union produce as guidelines for Member States (directives, programs, etc.) go in the opposite direction to that which bends in Italy takes on issues as security and immigration. Even the EU has understood nothing?
b) the press of other countries of Europe has a review of our current government and, above all of our electorate, very bad. Just read some magazine article on the International. The snooty condemned by many leftist intellectuals, therefore, affects all the European left? that is, is it an epidemic? or perhaps we should be careful not groped with some voters a trading downward too much?
I conclude my ramblings.
- I do not like the policy definition of "popular". It seems to me more than an imitation of the populist Berluscaz. I agree (with Alex we talked about it during a coffee) on the need for a program that touches so incisively those issues that concern the citizens, but to address them from our point of view. If people want more police because they feel insecure, but insecurity is not due to an increase in crime (for example, is the case of Pieve) patrols in place via Risorgimento Piazza Andrea Costa and cameras in what will solve? immediate cittradinanza certainly can say "here, have finally done something." But the problem of insecurity is not resolved, if upstream is the cause of different origin. In fact, the wrong answers are likely to aggravate the problem. Staying on this simple example (because it is significant how often you hear people say), seeing the increase patrols around the feeling that something is wrong, if there's the police. So attention to the answers that are given to the alleged problems of the people. Careful to distinguish in the single, undifferentiated blob.
- With partecipaizone not know about you but I do not want to finish anything. On a German newspaper a journalist said that Berlusconi won Italy because Italians do not want to take the right and duty to participate, and then lazily delegate who seems able to govern alone, without resorting to the demos, the people. Well, I still want to take this responsibility and I think it is important to encourage others to do the same.

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" One day in your department gets a new professor who argues that the cold is socially constructed. The next day, another colleague says that everything in the physical world and the world is socially constructed and motivated by political purposes more often than not confessed. Hence to argue that science and objectivity are simple forms of violence and the distance is short, even when in theory it could worry a little, we must resign ourselves to practice the sentences as "She takes advantage because he's right," or maybe "You are right, then he is wrong" . (M. Ferraris, Slips multicultural-Il Sole 24 Ore on Sunday 05/18/2008)

In front of our house a few months to live an unknown number of people. In a now dilapidated building - in an old town which is a "gem" dotted here and there for emergencies also valuable as the thirteenth-century palace in the square adjacent chains, or the square itself, but at the same time sadly left to itself - where until recently lived in southern families of recent immigration, has established the colony of individuals (individual) of origin (if free of this deduction does not sound violent) North Africa.
This evening I went out to make a run and on the street "were the only ones." From Panevino, under the arcades everywhere. Only them. Even the shadow of rooms, all - like myself until a few minutes before - holed up in its cocoon, with both feet in slippers in front of a soothing afternoon because of Sky Challenge Shield and other amenities. They hand out to the streets in disbelief to have a public space all to themselves, and not having to make even the trouble of having to interact with those who roads was inhabited by the very first.
I am also an immigrant. Up close, it is true, but they are, objectively, symbolic. I chose to come to church for experimenting on me - every day - a small amount of displacement. To learn more about reality, to enrich myself and others for new links. I am an immigrant because I have chosen. It would appear it was chosen by a very low risk, but I want to assert forcefully. But, perhaps aided by the recent change of social status that interested me - I became a father - in quell'insicurezza so I filled my mouth now interests me in person. Aldo Bonomi
likes to quote Simone Weil and his famous "who is uprooted roots." And it is a problem that affects us all. But what concerns many more - far from home, no job, no family - the roots are really lost. My concern arises from seeing that people who live with me - in fact - with their "bare life" with the brutal banality of their mere presence (in the series: it's not ever happened at all) can not - or should not - see their live bound to rules, nationals of specific devices: a job, a decent accommodation, a tax position ... is not "diversity" is frightening, but the eccentricity than this. The very existence of the rule of law is founded on a covenant between people should be empowered to maintain it.
Now, I tell you, it's all a matter of perception. You become a father, you know, and then ... And here I come to the political theme of the issue. The dictatorship of relativism (in front of your house is not a situation of apparent irregularities, the images you ...) As you see I reported Ferraris at the beginning, not Ratzinger. Some left - but both center-and even many Democrats - have always implicitly made use of the weapons of his alleged "reading skills" of society to assert its cultural supremacy. Besides, who but Hegel-Marx - in theoretical terms - described in a "grand narrative" of society? A sociology major upon us, able to act as the bridge between reality and public action (policy) on this reality. A great society which is incapable of reading - in fact - to respond to problems perceived as important (there are no problems "in kind", sold by weight: the only problems are those that "people" feel as such).
Now, I do not know if all this Pappardella is appropriate - or even applicable - to the case Pievesi. It remains my personal concern, my concern that - people uprooted and essentially abandoned by everyone, but I say fuck, even a visit to the Police would make them feel less alone ...) - decide to take hold on to my wife, my son. I swear: I never thought you get to do these speeches. I'm just saying, just a year before the elections should be very, very careful. Several cases - all the recent Rome - have shown that no "square" is reliable and predictable for ever. If there were elections today in Pieve (never mind the data and time series), and if the right to espriemere a candidate could barely decent, we would lose. There are no saints. So I say we open all the sites that you like, we do also the forums, but we write a decent program finally emptied of all the usual junk participation, for example. It 's time to stop. We have a program where we go down a rung (make an effort) to people, and we try to give serious answers to the problems experienced as such (Some good reasoning for example, from recent graduates, we will talk about it). It 's time for a policy is not populist, but now really popular.

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"young man of good family." We are talking about five thugs who murdered Nicola Tommasoli. Guilty of not wanting to "give" them a cigarette, after regular notice. Young ultras. Ultra-young. Occasionally, the far right. Neo-Nazi or neo-fascists. Young ultras. Used to having a stadium on hand to show their muscles, their slogans, their symbols against others. Enemies. The "other". Not only those of the other political party. The other party. But "others" in general. The foreigners, gypsies. The Jews. The weak. Flout the "ordinary" people. To whom do not like violence. Those in the evening in the city, pulling late with friends. And walking in the city center. I guess he can still be a city. Place where, in fact, walking with friends. Smoke a cigarette. Chat. Place of relations, in short. Network of communities. Not a political ambush. But aggression "by chance". Who knows: the Northern League could be attacked, maybe even fascist. At that time they were just ordinary people. On Finite way of extra-ordinary people. Super-men on leave. Young men of good family, even those who, in Turin, forcing firefighters fold. After being surrounded and attacked a few nights ago. The night before the party. Fighters impudent and imprudent. They demanded to fine cars parked everywhere, in Piazza Vittorio Veneto. In the city center. Even along the tram rails. So the night is not running. Claimed, the vigilance. To stop the endless party. The evenings, as they call it now. The white night is celebrated every weekend. Claimed to impede the free access to cars and SUVs, of course, are masters of the night. (Actually, even the day). Obviously the revolt of these young men of good family against such brazen arrogance. Thus, hundreds of them, forcing firefighters to flee. Not without their having struck a few blows, one or more strokes. So, for future reference. Of course, in this case do not have them slaughtered. They were neo-Nazis and neo-fascists. Just regular guys, "good family". You are limited to state law to control the territory. Filming the scene, regularly broadcast on "You tube". To order copies.
These "children of good family, technologically equipped and experienced. Luckily: they are born in very different times and away from the bloody 1968, who will celebrate the nefarious, forty years later. The legacy of illusion fails and violence remain. These young men of good family, however, do not look away. Do not try and figure utopias of other worlds. Communism, Mao, Che Guevara ... If anything - some of them - look back. Rewrite stories from which isolate what interests them. The myth of the force. The seed of violence. Farming, daily, exercising the hatred against others. Poor, beggars, gypsies and foreigners. Illegal or not. Why has not distinguished but categorize and hit the "other". The same fear that makes the common people. What ever would dream of burning their camp, let alone to kill and beat a boy because it gives you a cigarette. It could be their son, the attacked. And the attackers could be their children. Young men of good family. Those used to blow off steam on Saturday evening, nightclub, bar or in the center. In the squares and streets. Many glasses and some tablet to keep revs up. To kill time with the boredom. And the anguish that you take in this normal life, normal in this society, in this city normal. Where bans are common and taxation rules are unacceptable. Where to say "good" is an admission of guilt. And the weakness of a vice to be punished. Young men of good family. Parents who deprecate this company without authority, without restrictions and without punishment. And then are indignant: in front of the prohibitions and punishments. Authoritarian authorities. When they hit them and their children. Always the last to know. They fall from the clouds, if combine what they find, those of their children, who have given everything. No questions asked. Without knowing anything about them. These parents of good family. We have no votes against this school. Against professors who do not comply. Against teachers who can not control. Do not know how to punish. These parents. They do not understand and do not accept: that professors impose respect, command and punish. And maybe rejected. Their children. Young men of good family. Sons of good family. Of children. (La Repubblica, May 5, 2008)